093: The Dance Between Love and Power – Lorna Davis – Part 2

093: The Dance Between Love and Power – Lorna Davis – Part 2

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093: The Dance Between Love and Power - Lorna Davis - Part 2

Guest Overview

B Corp evangelist Lorna Davis is a transformational thinker, leader, and visionary for why and how organizations can combine social, and environmental priorities with their financial imperatives to deliver improved business performance. As a highly respected coach, international speaker Lorna also serves on a number of boards to help them embrace meaning and purpose.

Born in South Africa in the age of Apartheid, her education, parental guidance, curiosity, and worldly ambitions set her on the path to a stellar career in international business and marketing and finally leading Danone to become the first billion-dollar entity to become a public benefit corporation – welcome this week’s guest Lorna Davis.

In Part One of this two-parter, we cover Lorna’s early life in South Africa, her parent’s influence, how her education and her pollyannaish optimistic view of the world helped carve a successful career. We discuss Lorna’s social purpose epiphany when working in China in 2006. Lorna explains how she left China changed, and ultimately returned to Danone with a mission to help them become a purpose-driven company. Lorna recounts the practical realities of Danone’s evolution to a BCorp under her leadership in the US as Chief Manifesto Catalyst.

In Part Two we discuss Lorna’s transition to a BCorp Evangelist. She unpacks the steps companies should take to start their journey to becoming BCorp certified, the importance of having visionary CEO, engaging and empowering youthful activists to lead the transformation process, and bypassing senior and mid-management

We talk about the practical leverage of bottom-up, and outside-in methodologies, inviting an inclusive range of expert advisors and investors to accelerate the process of change, to overcoming short-termism, achieving triple bottom line, and the role of big banks

We cover the need to connect with our humanity, embrace ambiguity as Lorna explains her perspective on life being a dance of love and power.

Lorna also discusses the UN New SDG Action Navigator tool to help businesses measure progress against the SDG’s and projects forward the future structure of corporate boards that cover ESG’s.

Finally, we discuss serendipity, education, diversity, divine intelligence, the joy of being human and how she uses curiosity as an antidote to pain, and her perspective on how humanity works.

I hope you’re inspired by the leadership values, heart, the humanity of Lorna Davis.

Thanks to Joshua Spodek for the connection.

What We Discuss 

Her parental impact

We discuss her upbringing in apartheid South Africa

Lorna’s sense of abundance the opportunity the world offered

Her single-sex high school

Her sports focus

Learning routine discipline and order working for her at school

Studying psychology and anthropology

Breaking into Unilever

Her social purpose epiphany in China

Understanding that she could not continue to walk away from her responsibilities as a leader

Being lured back to Danone

Coming to the US

Taking on the BCorp Challenge

Managing shareholder expectations

Becoming a BCorp Evangelist

Lorna’s pragmatic perspective on our ability to address climate challenges

Where to spend our time and energy – wherever your heart breaks are where you spend your time and energy

Managing change – Inside and down vs Outside and Bottom-up thinking

Driving Supply-side change

Need to make Meetings inclusive and diverse

Role for investors

The dance between short term and long term

The separation of self in business and discomfort with ambiguity

Power and Love

RAM Das Quote

How Lorna creates systems change

The power of listening

Social Links 



Email – lornadavisuk@yahoo.com


Links In The Show

Ester Perel

To Thine Own Self be true 

Martin Luther King Quote

Christiana Figueres

Glenen Doyle  


Lorna’s TED Talk

Geography of Thought Erin Myer 


Culture Map


Buckminster Fuller 

Anand Giridharadas 




B Lab 

B Impact Assessment 

White Wave

Emmanuel Faber

Don’t Stop Here

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